Thursday, February 9, 2023

Autel IM508 Program 2021 LEXUS ES300 8A All Keys Lost

 2021 LEXUS ES300 8A proximity all keys lost is done by Xhorse and Autel IM508. 20 min done. No need for 12 digit pin and no OEM Key.

Step 1: generate XM38 Toyota proximity with vvdi key tool max

Under 0440 (AA) 33.58_434.42 option

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Step 2: Program XM38 smart key with Autel IM508

After use Xhorse to generate a Lexus Smart key. Backup immobilizer data with Autel IM508 and APB112 smart key simulator key programmer.

Make an analog key and then add key.

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G box Was not needed. Connect right into OBD 2 port. It did back up the data, So went into key learning, follow the steps, it asked if back up, clicked yes, and it went into learning mode. And successfully learn a New key via OBD II without doing a In-code or out-code, or any Password, or paying any $30 fee.

Monday, February 6, 2023

How to Solve Autel IM608 Camry 2022 Remote Not Working?

Problem:
Just did and add key on a 2022 Toyota Camry push to start with Autel IM608 pro and the keys start the car but the remotes don’t do anything.

key is brand new from Toyota and customer’s original key starts the car but no remote. It is not the problem of key.

 

 

Solution:

I had this same problem a while ago with Camry 2023 AKL and had to use smart pro to re synce the keys and then it worked.

You need to sync remotes again. You have to register the ID’s back to the smart box.

It’s a common problem with those new style Toyota keys. Have to re-register remote id’s.

Autel has the feature you have to go under Diagnostics->Control module->Special function, click on the ECU communication ID registration.

The ECU communication ID should be registered when the transponder key ECU and/or the ECM is replaced in order to match it to the ECM COMMUNICATION ID.

autel toyota ECU communication ID registration.


Sunday, February 5, 2023

Autel IM608 II vs VVDI Key Tool Plus vs X431 IMMO PAD

 What’s the difference among 2023 Autel MaxiIM IM608 II(IM608Pro II/IM608S II), xhorse vvdi key tool plus and x431 immo pad??

Check hardware parameter, diagnostic, key tool and immo functions comparison charts below:

ProductAutel MaxiIM IM608II/IM608S IIXhorse VVDI Key tool plusLaunch X-431 IMMO Pad




IMMO functionsLeading-edge on the whole – with best coverage of functions, ease of use and stability of functions

1. Leading edge on models of such makes as FCA, Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai, Kia and Nissan

2. Best ease of use: Auto VIN, IMMO status scan, guided functions, etc.

3. Good support for some small regional markets such as IMEA, South America and Australia

Advantages:

1. Wide coverage for 8A smart key for Toyota

2. Tablet coming with key slot

Disadvantages:

1. Behindhand on models of mainstream makes except for those of Mercedes-Benz, BMW, VAG and Toyota

Advantages:

1. Leading-edge in ECM and TCM reading, writing and cloning functions for Mercedes-Benz, BMW and VAG

Disadvantages:

1. Behindhand on models of almost all mainstream makes

Universal key generation functionSupportedSupportedNot supported
Diagnostic functionsBest diagnostic functions

1. IMMO system programming supported for BMW and Mercedes-Benz

2. Guided functions supported

3. Coding supported

4. Basic diagnostic functions such as Read Codes and Erase Codes supported

Diagnostic functions not supportedQuite comprehensive diagnostic functions

1. Coding supported

2. Basic diagnostic functions such as Read Codes and Erase Codes supported

Remote ExpertSupportedSupportedSupported
Operating systemAndroid 10.0Android 9.0Android 7.1
MemoryRAM: 4 GB, ROM: 128 GBRAM: 4 GB, ROM: 128 GBRAM: 4 GB, ROM: 64 GB
Display screen/resolution10.1”   1920*120010.4”   1920*120010.1”   1920*1200
Battery15000 mAh10000 mAh9360 mAh
CameraRear: 1600 MPRear: 1300 MPFront: 800 MP, rear: 1300 MP
VCIJVCI+All-in-oneSmartlink C VCI
ProgrammerXP400 ProBuilt-inX-PROG 3

Diagnostic Function Comparison

Diagnostic FunctionMaxiIM IM608II/IM608S IIVVDI Keytool plusX-431 IMMO Pad
Auto VINYesYes
Read Codes/Erase CodesYesYes
Live DataYesYes
ECU InformationYesYes
Service function                          Yes   (36)  Yes (25)
Special FunctionYesYes
Online codingYesYes
Offline codingYesYes
Hide FunctionYesYes
Guided functionsYes
Report ManagementYesYes
Remote ExpertYesYes
Scalability  Yes  (Optional endoscope)  Yes   (Optional endoscope, TPMS functions, etc.)

Key tool function

Key Tool FunctionMaxiIM IM608II/IM608S IIVVDI Keytool plusLaunch X-431 IMMO Pad
Universal key generationYesYes
Transponder simulationYesNo
Frequency detectionYesYes
Transponder readingYesYes
Key renewalYesYes
IMMO data processingYesYes
Ignition coil detectionNoYes

IMMO Functions Comparison

MakeMaxiIM IM608 II/IM608S IIVVDI Keytool plusLaunch X-431 IMMO Pad
BMWAdvantages:

1. ISN reading in Bench mode supported for 3 MD/MG (new platform) ECM models

2. Key learning supported for EWS

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

1. Key leaning supported for motorcycles

Disadvantages:

1. ISN reading via OBD or in Bench mode supported few ECM models

Advantages:

1. More ECM models for EEPROM and FLASH reading in Bench mode than ECM models for cloning (ECM model menu)

Disadvantages:

1. Key learning not supported for EWS

2. Bench mode not supported for 6-speed transmission and F chassis

Mercedes-BenzAdvantages:

1. IMMO functions supported for 5 Smart models

2. PIN acquisition supported for 26 IMMO module types

3. Such functions as data reading, erasing and writing supported for 3 types of TCM, 16 types of ECM, GSM and ESCL

4. Manual model selection supported

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Slow PIN calculation (all keys lost)

2. A large number of sub-functions causing operation inconveniency for users

3. Slow PIN reading for key learning and slow configuration data recovery for Smart 453

4. Start key writing not supported for IMMO modules for Sprinter (2007-2018) with blade key in the US

Advantages:

1. Such functions as data reading, erasing and writing supported for 3 types of TCM, 18 types of ECM, and GSM

Disadvantages:

1. Manual model selection not supported

2. PIN acquisition supported for less (only 22) IMMO module types

FordAdvantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 72 models from 1995 to 2021

2. Wide coverage of functions: Keypad Code, Auto VIN, IMMO status scan, Parameter Reset, vehicle IMMO information, and hot functions supported

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 45 models from 2000 to 2021

2. Narrow coverage of Parameter Reset function

Advantages:

1. Parts replacement supported

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 55 models from 1998 to 2021 in 6 regions

ChryslerAdvantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 36 models of Chrysler, 58 models of Dodge and 25 models of Jeep from 1997 to 2022

2. PIN-free IMMO functions supported

Disadvantages:

No obvious disadvantage

Advantages:

No obvious advantage

Disadvantages:

1. Insufficient coverage for models (13 models of Chrysler, 16 models of Dodge and 23 models of Jeep from 1997 to 2022) and integrity of functions

Advantages:

No obvious advantage

Disadvantages:

1. PIN-free functions not supported for some models

GMAdvantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 192 models of 9 major makes from 1993 to 2022

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

1. Online PIN-free functions and third-party CANFD model menus supported for CANFD models

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 69 models of 5 major makes from 1999 to 2022

Advantages:

No obvious advantage

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 58 models of 4 major makes from 1999 to 2022

 

MakeMaxiIM IM608II/IM608S IIVVDI Keytool plusLaunch X-431 IMMO Pad
VAGAdvantages:

1. IMMO 5 BCM2 encrypted IMMO data reading and key adding as well as All Keys Lost for some IMMO 5 models supported

2. IMMO data synchronization for parts replacement supported for IMMO 3/IMMO 4/MQB ECM and IMMO 5 ECM/TCM/ESCL

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Pats replacement function not supported

Advantages:

1. Wide coverage for ECM and TCM  types for replacement in Bench mode

2. Online learning for IMMO 4 supported

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage of parts replacement

2. IMMO 5 BCM2 encrypted IMMO data reading not supported

PSAAdvantages:

1. Model coverage of key learning 10% greater than that of *VDI

2. Coverage of PIN reading via OBD 50% grater than that of *VDI

3. BSI cloning supported

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Poor model coverage of key learning

2. Poor coverage of PIN reading via OBD

3. BSI cloning not supported

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Poor coverage of PIN reading via OBD

2. BSI cloning not supported

RenaultAdvantages:

1. Coverage for 67 models up to 2022

2. PIN-free key adding supported for Clio V/Captur II with blade key

3. IMMO status scan, Auto VIN, and vehicle IMMO information supported

Disadvantages:

1. ECU reset required for PIN acquisition (all keys lost) for Kadjar and Koleos II with blade key

Advantages:

1. ECU reset not required for PIN acquisition (for Kadjar and Koleos II with blade key)

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 28 models up to 2022

2. IMMO status scan, Auto VIN, and vehicle IMMO information not supported

3. PIN-free key adding not supported for Clio V/Captur II with blade key

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 35 models up to 2022

2. IMMO status scan, Auto VIN, and vehicle IMMO information not supported

3. PIN-free key adding not supported for Clio V/Captur II with blade key

FiatAdvantages:

1. Comprehensive coverage for models: 181 models from 1996 to 2023 in 8 regions

2. Auto VIN supported

Disadvantages:

1. Start key writing not supported for some old models

Advantages:

1. Start key writing (not via OBD) supported for some old models, and no obvious advantage on models as of 2005

Disadvantages:

1. Insufficient coverage for models (127 models from 1996 to 2020) and integrity of functions

Advantages:

No obvious advantage

Disadvantages:

Insufficient coverage for models (23 models from 1996 to 2020) and integrity of functions

Toyota

Lexus

Advantages:

1. Comprehensive coverage for models: 340 models of Toyota and 233 models of Lexus in 5 regions

2. PIN-free functions for 4A and 8A-A8/A9/AA supported

Advantages:

1. PIN-free All Keys Lost for 8A smart key supported

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 45 models of Toyota and 10 models of Lexus

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. PIN-free functions for 4A and 8A-A8/A9/AA not supported

2. Narrow coverage for models: 232 models of Toyota and 159 models of Lexus in 5 regions

 

MakeMaxiIM IM608II/IM608S IIVVDI Keytool plusLaunch X-431 IMMO Pad
Honda

Acura

Advantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 85 models of Honda and 13 models of Acura

2. Parts replacement, Auto VIN, IMMO status scan, and vehicle IMMO information supported for most models

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 25 models of Honda and 16 models of Acura

2. Narrow coverage of functions: parts replacement not supported, and only key adding and All Keys Lost supported

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: a total of 81 models of Honda and Acura

2. All Keys Lost (via OBD) for smart key not supported for new models as of 2019 (Civic, Accord, Odyssey, etc.)

NissanAdvantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 504 models up to 2022 in 9 regions

2. Auto VIN, IMMO status scan, PIN conversion from 22 to 20 for Kicks, PIN conversion from 6+4 to 4, IMMO function (PIN-free key adding) for T33 and B18 (2022), and All Keys Lost for smart key for D60, D60 EV and T60 supported

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 17 models up to 2020 in 9 regions

2. PIN conversion from 22 to 20 for Kicks, IMMO status scan, PIN conversion from 6+4 to 4, IMMO function (PIN-free key adding) for T33 and B18 (2022), and All Keys Lost for smart key for D60 EV not supported

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for models: 161 models up to 2020 in 7 regions

2. PIN conversion from 22 to 20 for Kicks, IMMO status scan, PIN conversion from 6+4 to 4, IMMO function (PIN-free key adding) for T33 and B18, and All Keys Lost for smart key for D60, D60 EV and T60 not supported

Hyundai

Kia

Advantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 365 models of Hyundai up to 2022 in 4 regions

2. Wide coverage of functions: Auto VIN for most models, PIN reading for 47/4A/8A smart key for new models, PIN reading for such models as KX Cross, and IMMO functions, IMMO status scan, basic functions, hot functions, auxiliary functions, etc. for new models supported

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for modes: 177 models up to 2021 in 2 regions

2. Narrow coverage of functions: PIN reading for 8A smart key for new models, and PIN reading, IMMO status scan, basic functions, hot functions, etc. for such models as fourth-generation Santa Fe and KX Cross not supported

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for modes: 188 models up to 2021 in 2 regions

2. Narrow coverage of functions: PIN reading for 8A smart key for new models, and PIN reading, IMMO status scan, basic functions, hot functions, etc. for such models as fourth-generation Santa Fe and KX Cross not supported

VolvoAdvantages:

1. Wide coverage for models: 27 models up to 2021

Disadvantages:

None

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for modes: 11 models up to 2021

Advantages:

None

Disadvantages:

1. Narrow coverage for modes: 25 models up to 2021

Chinese makesAdvantages:

1. Coverage for models of such makes as Changan, FAW, GWM, Emgrand, Trumpchi and BYD up to 2022

2. PIN-free learning supported for models of GWM

3. PIN-free learning supported for 80% of models of Emgrand

4. Parts replacement supported for most models

Disadvantages:

1. Zedriv not covered

2. PIN-free functions inferior to those of competing products (which adopt the mode of cooperation with third parties) for models including those of BAIC, Borgward and Bisu

Advantages:

1. PIN-free functions realized through cooperation with third parties on inquiry and charge for BAIC, Forthing, Borgward, Bisu, Haima, Landwind, Geely and Changan (PIN-free functions developed by Autel do not cover all models)

Disadvantages:

1. For most models, only key learning and key easing supported and parts replacement not supported

2. PIN-free functions not supported for new models of GWM, not supported for models of SAIC MAXUS, and supported for only some models of blade key for Emgrand

Advantages:

1. Zedriv covered

Disadvantages:

1. Only models up to 2021 covered

2. PIN-free All Keys Lost not supported for BYD

3. PIN-free functions not supported for GWM and Emgrand

 

Read also:

Autel IM608 II vs IM608 vs IM508S vs IM508 vs KM100

How to Save Autel MaxiIM VAG MQB Sync Data?

 Autel and sync data for VAG MQB system:

If someone will save with Autel MaxiIM IM508/IM608/IM608 PRO/IM608 II the syncdata after preparing the dealer key, here are the instructions.

Works only if original key is available.

  • read immo data and save the CS
  • generate with CS and data from original key a dealer key
  • do not learn the key
  • go into key menu read the key and read the eeprom from the dealer key and save it
  • now you can learn the dealer key to the car.

If sometime this car have an All keys lost situation you can program/learn the key (or aftermarket keys ) with CS and sync data which you have saved.
Here you find the sync data in the key eeprom which are readed after generated dealer key.

Save Autel MaxiIM VAG MQB Sync Data

It’s for Autel users.

Xhorse VVDI key tool plus and Vvdi2 generate sync data automatically.

 

NOTE: Neither Autel nor Xhorse will retrieve sync data. You need to obtain from 3rd party.

Wednesday, February 1, 2023

Can Autel IM508 Program Xhorse MQB Smart Remote?

 Problem:

Had generate a Xhorse XSMQB1EN with VVDI Mini Key Tool, but can not make a VAG MQB48 /49 system dealer key with IM508 + XP400pro. Is there a Keyid key that can be generated as MQB key? Can I use this key for cars without keyless?

 

Solution:

Autel cannot make dealer key using mqb Smart keys from xhorse.

Xhorse mqb need xhorse key programming tool (vvdi2key tool plus. if failed to read immo data, need sync data from third party)

KD works. You need to use kd-smart key and make dealer key and program by autel. Sometimes need to take PCB out when learn key.

Can Autel IM508 Program Xhorse MQB Smart Remote?