Tuesday, June 27, 2023

Autel IM508 and AutoPro PAD Which is Better

 Thoughts on the AutoProPad Basic (APP)? Worth the $1K for an American/Asian daily programmer or is money better spent on a Autel IM508 with XP400Pro ?

Autel IM508 and AutoPro PAD Which is Better

First comes some unbiased reviews of both devices:

 

1. Autel can help get his foot in to European with other autel accessories. The APP basic has no European support.

 

2. I love my AutoPro Pad basic for certain vehicles especially ford. The ford 10 minute AKL bypass is a good feature. It does many Fords nicely (no 10 min wait), and many other cars. also no internet required for the APP. No internet to do dodges on the APP. Just wish there was a chevy 12 min bypass.

 

3. Km100 will give him similar functionality to Im508 without the ongoing subscription. Autel is weak on Honda but his topdon will cover that. the km100 would’ve been good as a first programmer as it can tackle most USA domestic vehicle.

 

4. I love Autel IM508. It can bypass the rolling code on new Toyota, AKL on a Hilux bladed through GBox and add key directly on Golf V without a working original, plus can generate Autel Prox and chips on the super chip in a pinch.

 

5.  The IM508 newest system update removed the need for hotspot connection to do all cars. My IM508 is my main programmer and it hasn’t let me down.

 

6. The Autel KM100 would be a good choice, being very similar in immo to the 508, but relatively cheap, and also good for doing autel universal fobs, which can contribute to a versatile inventory for cheap. The 608 will be able to do this, yes… But switching systems on it is a little clunky and tedious, so generating on the km100 and then programming on the 608 is faster and more convenient, so it’s still worth having around.

 

7. My first programmer was the APP full version. Bought the IM508 later. Each has its own benefits, but the 508 does more.

 

8. We have both. AutoPad can do new gms but I’d take im508 over it everyday of the week.

 

9. Then AutoProPad for it’s ease of use. And APP basic is non subscription, no tokens – no Internet so that will get scooped up while they still offer it.

 

10. I Started with a ProPad Basic ( affordable covers a good amount of vehicles ) but I picked up the skills very quick 2 months in I needed something more advanced then I purchased IM508 with XP400 Pro ( I got a good deal.)

 

11. Autel IM508 to start then upgrade it with the following items Gbox2, apb112, xp400 pro programmer. You get a kick ass set that maybe costs $1500. You will be able to 95% of keys.

 

In sum:

Use both, a great team. You’re going to need more than 1 programmer to fill gaps in coverage.

 

AuoPropad Pros:

No network

No subscription, no token

Fast

Will bypass new Fords with active alarm

 

 

Autel IM508 Pros:

large coverage than APP

Generate autel universal keys

bypass Toyota proximity pin code

slower than APP

 

 

AutoPropad works without network, it is faster and covers new Fords. Autel does more, it will bypass new Toyotas, it can generate autel universal keys but it is slower.

Monday, June 26, 2023

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro

 Apart from physical hardware differences, what’s the difference between Autel MaxiIM IM608 Pro and IM608 Pro II (aka IM608 II)

 

Hardware comparison table

Autel IM608 II vs IM608 vs IM508S vs IM508

Here comes the case, Jbox, software layout, menu comparison (with images).

Hardware

 

Case:

IM608 Pro2 case is huge compared with im608 I.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 1

Left: IM608 Pro; Right: IM608 II

 

 

Open up case and see what’s inside.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 2

The 608 Pro 2 the latest generation it’s on the left side.

on the right size the 608 Pro the first generation.

You can see right away in the main software on the screens difference in the operating systems.

on the left the 608 Pro 2 it’s using the latest Android 10.0 version.

on the right the first generation it’s using the older Android 4.4.2 operating system.

The difference in the machines is mainly all Hardware differences.

There are really no software coverage differences between the two tools.  608 Pro 2 is not adding more key programming coverage, not adding more diagnostic coverage. programming coverage the coverage is still the same. The difference is mainly in the hardware.

 

so besides the Android operating system that you see also the 608 Pro 2 has more hard drive space.

the 608 Pro 2 has 4 gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of flash memory, whereas the 608 Pro the first generation has two gigabytes of RAM and 64 gigabytes of flash memory.

 

 

Also if you look at the j2534 the vehicle communication interfaces.

we’ll pull them side by side.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 3

Left: IM608 Pro II; Right: IM608 pro.

see they both have port for USB.

the 608 Pro 2 is using its own version 2 cable only compatible with the version 2 cable.

Version 2 cable looks just like the version 1, but it is the only cable that works with the new j-box.

on this end it’s special it’s recessed.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 4

So if we try to take for example APC 101, it’s not recessed and it won’t fit in here and won’t stay in.

Can I use this standard USB?  You have to use that blue version two point version two cable。

 

Then come to the Jbox on the old im608. You see it has a DC 12V port for power and the regular OBD cable plug-in.

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we’ll flip the new one around. You got the 12 volt the VCI cable plug-in.

again it’s using the version 2 cable and the version 2 cable essentially looks the same.

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Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 7

This one also has another Port here. This is the doip port for ethernet.

So this is mainly used for the new BMWs the F series the new Land Rovers are using it. It’s mainly for Diagnostics and programming those vehicles require a higher speed connection. It’s referred to as doip. That’s built-into the new Jbox.

For old im608 pro you’d have to have an extra adapter to work for that.

 

So besides that doip also the can FD for the new GMs and the new Fords is also built into this new jbox whereas the old one you’d have to buy the CAN FD adapter in order to use with it.

so that’s pretty much the main Hardware differences between the two tools.

 

 

Software

Then we will go through the software and we’ll take a look we’ll see a little bit of the software differences as well.

 

Layout:

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 8

Main software has different layouts.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 9

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 10

 

When you open a manufacturer, we’ll do the Lexus on here as well. so a little bit of a difference there.

if we pull up manual selection on the im608 pro 2. It shows you more of this list.

if we do manual selection in Pro, list is like that

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 11

 

You see how the software looks different.

You have more of the icon view here. let’s say the list view on the 608 Pro, typically we go control unit, immobilizer

these are options are functions same thing in im608, control unit, immobilizer and we have the same functions

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We’ll also show you the main home page on im608 ii we can click the Android home

This is all about Android apps 608 Pro 2.

 

 

Check out the 608 Pro on button, one difference we noticed is the 608 pro has a hex editor built in reviewing bin files.

The 608 Pro 2 does not come with a hex editor.

It’s not that essential but that’s one difference.

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You can also take a look at the ports on the top which are essentially the same between the two machines.

Autel IM608 Pro 2 vs IM608 Pro 14

You have your power on the left headphone jack, USB HDMI USB and another mini USB and the 608 Pro same thing

Tablets are the same size and they use the same battery capacity.

Sunday, June 25, 2023

How to Add VW Golf7 MQB48 Key with Autel IM508

 How-to: add a spare key to VW Golf 7 using Autel MaxiIM IM508 & IM608 PRO key programmer.

 

Cluster type: VDO NEC35XX

Key type: MQB48 non-smart key

 

Go to IMMO->VW->Expert selection->MQB (beta) instrument cluster-> VDO NEC 35XX-> Read Immo data

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For vehicles with smart key, place the key close in the sensing area and then turn the ignition to ON.

For vehicles without smart key, insert the original key and then turn the ignition to ON. Here is a non-smart key.

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Read CS and PIN

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Select Key Learning
if IM508 asks is the vehicle with smart key, press No
Select key number to be learned: 1

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Insert the key and turn on ignition switch

Learning key in process

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Insert each key to be learned into the ignition (within 5s) and turn on the ignition to ON.

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Key learning completed. Turn off ignition and wait for 5s. Then turn on ignition to ON.

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Autel IM508 IM508 Updated VAG MQB NEC35XX

Autel MaxiIM series released new VAG software update-reading immo data from VAG MQB48 series NEC35XX dashboard.

 

AUTEL MAXIM Update – 608 & 508.
– Volkswagen MQB Compatible Chip Model:
MQB NEC35XX Board (Johnson Comtrol, VDO, Visteon).

– Vehicle coverage:
1. Volkswagen: Magotan CC, New Passat, Tiguan L, Touron Golf 7, Touran, Lingdu, Lavida, Sagitar, Bora, Tange, Tanyue, Weilan, etc.

Arteon 2017-2021,Golf 2013-2021, Passat 2015-2021, Polo 2015-2021 Jiguan 2018-2021, Touran 2016-2022, Jetta 2018-2021, T-Roc 2018-2021

2. Audi: A3/S3 Q3 Q2

Al 2019-2021, A3 2021-2021, Q2 2017-2021, Q3 2019-2021

 

3. Skoda: Octavia, Superb, Kodiaq, Karoq

Octavia 2013- 2021, Fabia 2015-2021, Superb 2015-2021, Kodiaq 2017-2021, Kamiq 2020-2021, Rapid 2013-2021

 

4. Arona 2018-2021, Ateca 2017-2021, Ibiza 2018-2021, Leon 2013-2021, Tarraco 2019-2021, Toledo 2013-2019

 

– Chip Type List:

D70F3532, D70F3525, D70F3526, D70F3537, D70F3529

 

 

This feature will be added for all teams with a valid annual end of May for Autel IM508S & IM608 PRO II (IM608 II) and in July for IM508 & IM608 PRO.

Autel IM508 IM508 Updated Volkswagen MQB NEC35XX


Unlock your business possibilities with a new key-added job update on the Volkswagen MQB NEC35XX from Autel.

The latest update lets you read IMMO data from the VW MQB48 NEC35XX series dashboard directly, without any third party assistance. 


All im608 teams gonna get this free update or is it paid? What adapter is needed?

 

This function will need XP400 Pro+ APB130 adapter.

 

APB130 (coming soon):

Features are introduced as follows:

Note: 1. Support add MQB48 type keys and all keys lost (AKL need to get 3rd party sync data)

The product prep schedule is as follows:

1. Price: To be decided, will be sent for review shortly;

2. The launch of the software version and mass production of the accessories plates is at the end of May;

3. For devices under software subscription can update this feature for free, and other devices with software expiration must pay for software updates;

4. The updated version at the end of May is targeted at IM508S and IM608 PRO II, and the older products IM508 and IM608 Pro will arrive 1 or 2 months later.

Program Highlander 2020 All Keys Lost with Autel IM608 II

 How-to: program Toyota Highlander 2020-2023 proximity push to start all keys lost with Autel MaxiIM IM608 II (IM608 Pro2) via OBD.


Go to IMMO>Toyota->manual selection->USA->Highlander->2020 to 2023-> Control Unit-> Keyless System(CAN)->Backup Immo Data->Backup via OBD

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Put the hazards on

back up immo data via OBD, Save immo data.

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Then generate analog key

We’ll take a simulator key Autel apb112.

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Generate analog key complete

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put the analog key close to the push/stop button, and press the stop button

Ignition is on.

If the instrument lights up successfully. click yes

now we’ll do add smart key with im608 ii.

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turn on the ignition

let’s set the hazards

we’ll turn the ignition off

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Keep the apb112 close to the start button, the buzzer will beep once.

Keep the new Toyota smart key close to the start button, buzzer will beep twice.

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Successfully program a new key.

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